Primalgirl Opens Up: Hidradenitis Suppurativa Part 2

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The response to my last post on Hidradenitis Suppurativa (HS) has been overwhelming and heartbreaking.

I knew it would be. I know what it’s like to suffer with this. To have so many questions and no solutions. To get your hopes up that something is working, only to have a flare up when you least expect it.

Grace says “I have been on so many websites and in reality, it is the same information copy and pasted over and over. NOBODY has any real information about what can be done for this disease. It is breaking my heart. My daughter is a beautiful young woman and I can’t imagine sitting idly by while this condition takes more and more hold over her body.”

Kori says, “I too have suffered (continue to suffer) from HS since puberty. Since going primal I have noticed a severe reduction in outbreak (mine are mainly underarm, and buttock although occasionally groin) but not a total remission…It is true, though, that diet has been key. I have bad flare ups once or twice a year now as opposed to once a month.”

Debbie, who also suffers from HS says, “I didn’t know the name of it and I’m a nurse.”[*RANT BELOW*]

HS Stage 1. You may have it and not even realize it. It comes and goes.

For those of you that are afflicted with HS, please know that I understand. I understand. I know many of you didn’t comment for fear of “outing” yourself. Others are just waiting for me to tell you the cure. I’m sorry to tell you this, but there is no cure. Like Lyme Disease and Herpes, HS will lie dormant in your system until you give it the right conditions to appear. And then, appear it will.

There is no cure. As far as the medical community is concerned.

There is no cure. But I have a remedy that works.

It took three years to find out exactly what triggered HS in me, but I have found it. My scars are gone. All but the last little scar from my last “experiment” on October 22, 2011, that is. HS scars can take years to fade. Unfortunately, what triggers the disease in me might not be the same as you, but it can give you an idea of where to start.

It all starts with diet.

HS Stage 2. It becomes harder to ignore and the worst pain you’ve ever had.

Diet? The doctors never mentioned this. I was told antibiotics were the only solution and that they didn’t always work. I was told to wear cotton underwear, to keep myself clean, to wash with anti-bacterial body wash, and when that didn’t work to pony up to anti-microbial cleansers like Hibiclens Antimicrobial & Antiseptic Skin Cleanser (more on that later). I was told to avoid shaving. To shower daily. (Don’t do that. Please.) I found old wives tales and remedies that were damn near medieval on HS forums and support groups. My favorite was to take the moisture from a toad’s back during the full moon and apply it to boils. Sure. That’s happening. I was told to give up coffee (Suuuuuuuure, I’ll get right on that one, too.). As crazy as the remedies were, I was willing to try them. Except for the toad one, that is. Everyone has their limits.

For those of you not interested in details, here is the solution in “Three Easy Steps.” (It’s really not as simple as these three steps, so those of you that are interested in ending your outbreaks for good will probably want to read on.)

  1. Start by eating a strict auto-immune Paleo diet. Robb Wolf talks about the Paleo autoimmune protocol on his website which you can read about here, otherwise, I’ll be discussing it later on in this article. Stay on this diet and do not stray for at least 30 days. Longer is better. If you can make it 60 days, that’s great. You will more than likely see a remission of your HS. You will also feel awesome and lose some weight, but that is not our goal here – it’s just a side benefit. If you do not see a remission of your HS, you will need to look closer at your diet and see what else you can remove.
  2. After you realize it’s been two months without a flare up, start adding foods back in, ONE at a time. Do this slowly. Do not introduce different foods less a week apart or you won’t be able to tell what is or isn’t affecting you. If you don’t react to the food, eat it for at least three days in a row and wait four days. For me, the boil/abscess appear the following morning after I have eaten the offending food. This is soon enough to see a connection in me, but it may be different for you. You may be able to eat the offending food once or twice before your body reacts. Don’t rush this step. Make sure you write down everything you eat. Don’t rely on your memory.
  3. Once you have found your “offending foods” don’t eat them anymore, unless the short-term gain caused by that food outweighs the weeks of pain from an outbreak. Sometimes it may. You may find the boils will heal faster if you only have your “outbreak foods” once in a blue moon. Everyone will react differently. You can test out your theory by abstaining from your triggers for 60 days and then reintroducing them. Did you break out? How many days of eating that food did it take for you to break out? Figure out how your body reacts. Then, don’t eat that food anymore.

HS Stage 3. Read this young woman’s heartbreaking story at notdying.wordpress.com

See? It’s really not that simple. Just going on an auto-immune Paleo diet is more than some people can bear. Keeping detailed records of everything you eat for months on end can be overwhelming. You can always do it ass-backwards, like me. I only suggest following these three steps because it will be the quickest way to a solution for you. I did it the opposite way around and it took three years to figure out what was causing me to flareup: potatoes.

That’s right. Potatoes. Mashed, boiled, fried, instant, baked, turned into tots. Organic or conventional, it didn’t matter. Hidden potato starch/flour in Gluten Free products. Potatoes? Really? I had been eating them my whole life and thought they were one of the safer neolithic foods, since they were natural and not causing me any digestive upset. I had also been suffering from HS since puberty, so it goes to show you things you grew up on and have been eating for over 20 years CAN be the culprit; it’s not necessarily something exotic or new in your diet. Here’s why it took me so damn long to figure out my trigger:

  1. I didn’t keep a food diary. I went Primal, cutting out all sugar, processed foods, grains and most starchy carbs, including potatoes. I saw a drastic reduction in the number of flareups I had, so much to where I thought I had the HS under control. However, I would break out every so often without a seeming cause. I followed the 80/20 rule and for the first year and a half would treat myself to potatoes, milk chocolate and even Subway sandwiches once every couple of weeks. I couldn’t see a connection and different things seemed to make me break out, while some things I thought were affecting me didn’t seem to. I wasn’t scientific at all in my approach.
  2. I made assumptions. I read that HS was connected to smoking (which I used to do) and PCOS. I had quit smoking before I got pregnant but it didn’t make a difference. Since my PCOS was caused by super-elevated insulin levels due to sugar intake, I assumed the HS was connected to sugar, too. I was able to eat dark chocolate whenever I wanted, but I seemed to flare up whenever I would treat myself to a piece (or a bar, ha) of milk chocolate or gummy candies. I wasn’t paying attention to the small bag of potato chips I would also be eating with that candy. Or the In N Out fries with my protein-style burger. Why would I? I knew potatoes were bad for my insulin, but who ever heard of potatoes causing zits? Or boils? Not me. It didn’t even show up on my radar. I chalked it up to the sugar in the potatoes, the chocolate, the candy.
  3. I was unaware of the auto-immune nature of HS. Things got more confusing when I cut out Splenda after six months on the Primal diet. Not only did I lose 10 pounds without even thinking about it, but my HS went into remission. I tried an experiment a couple months in by adding a couple packets of Splenda to my morning coffee and I broke out with a boil the next day. I was convinced it was the Splenda. I haven’t touched it since (which is a good thing) nor have I touched anything with maltodextrin in it either (the other ingredient in Splenda besides sucralose). Since I wasn’t keeping a food diary, I couldn’t see that the potatoes I had for dinner the same night as the Splenda might also be a contributing factor. Note: When I had a flare up during this time, it was different. Before I went Primal, a new boil would appear at least once a week. It would take weeks, if not months, to go away. After changing my diet, I would only break out once every month or two. The boil would only last a few days. There was not as much swelling or pain. It would subside quite quickly, wouldn’t even come to a head and didn’t leave a scar. I thought (probably correctly) that HS flareups “feed” on the inflammation caused by the offending food, and the more you put into your system, the longer the boils take to heal.
  4. I wasn’t keeping track of the food groups I was eating, for the most part. After going to AHS 2011, I stopped eating dairy. I lost more weight and felt fantastic, but didn’t really notice a difference in my digestion, skin or anything else. I added some dairy back in after 30 days but didn’t see any change. It was nice to rule out dairy as a cause, but I was still convinced that milk chocolate was affecting me someway. I went to a Hallowe’en party on October 22 of last year. The food at the party consisted of: MacDonald’s and Hallowe’en candy. I didn’t touch the burgers but I certainly ate the candy. I had 4 little boxes of Nerds, some Sweetarts, a bunch of milk chocolate and some french fries. I made sure I stayed gluten free and didn’t touch the burgers, not even the patties. The next day, I woke up with a “hangover” and a boil. Another seeming connection to milk chocolate and candy. I didn’t think about the fries. I was unaware that another food group besides wheat or dairy could even play a factor.
  5. My kid’s diet changed. They were having psoriasis attacks, which we could not seem to get under control. We had made sure that they didn’t have any wheat or dairy in their diet, but they would still break out occasionally. They had full-on allergic reactions to tomatoes – red, rosy cheeks, runny noses and hives. I checked the ingredients in some of their gluten-free products and found potato starch and/or flour in all of them. The kids would scream in pain and claw at their mouths anytime there was chili, hot pepper or even paprika in their food. I couldn’t get them to eat eggplant or bell peppers at all and then they went off potatoes completely and wouldn’t touch them. I hadn’t made a connection to the nightshade family. With a little research, I found out that tomatoes, potatoes, peppers and eggplants all belonged to the nightshade family and we immediately removed any nightshades from the kids diets. Since I didn’t have potatoes or tomatoes in the house anymore, I wasn’t eating them either.
  6. My experiments started to fail, or not produce any results. During the holiday season, I ate some milk chocolate. Nothing happened. I ate more. Nothing. Then I ate an entire Pound Plus bar of Trader Joe’s milk chocolate in 4 days. NOTHING. I got super pissed off. I ate some gummy candies. Again, nothing. I started to tempt fate (and the scale) and ate sugar in the form of milk chocolate and sour candies every day for THREE WEEKS. Still, nothing. I was trying to find the “magic number” of times I could eat this crap and not break out. Finally, I got a little zit on my chin and started to feel like crap. But the HS was no where to be seen. Occasionally, I would have a tablespoon of organic ketchup with my eggs but then I started getting canker sores a couple hours later. I asked a Nose Ear Throat specialist about it and he mentioned the words, “possible auto-immune response.” It was then that it clicked: I had had french fries at that party. I had had potatoes for dinner the same night I had tried my Splenda experiment. I hadn’t had potatoes since that Hallowe’en party and I hadn’t had an HS outbreak, either. I was getting canker sores from tomatoes. A tiny zit on my scalp after eating bell peppers. My body was reacting to nightshades, but differently than I had seen in anyone else. If I hadn’t removed nightshades from my kids diets, I never would have figured it out.

It took me three years to muddle through this mess by myself. I’m hoping that by following my “Three Easy Steps” in a slow and scientific manner you’ll be able to figure out what triggers YOUR HS in six months or less.

Robb Wolf’s Autoimmune Protocol:

Google “autoimmune disorder.” You won’t find any mentions of HS, except for some speculation about the connection on www.dailystrength.org. What you find on sites like Medline isn’t encouraging. According to them, “there is no known prevention for most autoimmune disorders…Most autoimmune diseases are chronic, but many can be controlled with treatment. Side effects of medications used to suppress the immune system can be severe. Contact your health care provider.”

They don’t have a fucking clue. It’s a good thing that most people in the Paleo community are as brilliant as hell, ’cause they’ve solved your problem.

For me, the first mention of connecting HS to autoimmunity came from the great Loren Cordain himself. You may not find it written down anywhere as he told me personally at the AHS last year but I believe he had plans to cover the topic of HS in an upcoming book. Thinking of my HS as an auto-immune response got the mental ball rolling for me and I approached combating the condition differently. To learn more about auto-immunity, check out the FAQ page at www.robbwolf.com:

“Emerging research has made clear the link between Neolithic foods (grains, legumes and dairy) and autoimmune diseases such as Lupus, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Multiple Sclerosis and a host of other less well know conditions. Many people have found significant improvements in autoimmune disease by eliminating the Neolithic foods and building a diet around nutritious Paleo options. If you suffer from an autoimmune disease we highly recommend you start a Paleo diet and let us know what your results are. To give your body its best chance to heal we recommend that you initially limit the following foods:

  • Eggs
  • Tomatoes & eggplants
  • Peppers including bell peppers and hot peppers
  • Spices such as curries, paprika, and chili powder.

Some of these otherwise Paleo-friendly foods have been shown to be problematic in individuals with autoimmune issues. We recommend you fully remove not only these foods but also all Neolithic foods (grains, breads, potatoes, beans and dairy) for at least a month to see if they pose a problem for you.”

~Robb Wolf

Notice how all the nightshades are in there? Also notice the other conditions you can slam into remission if you happen to have them? Or have a loved one who suffers? Please pass this on. I’m writing this because I want to help you and the people you love.

In the Meantime: Taking Care of Flareups

Over the years, scars will accumulate.

I personally have not found a difference with exercise, sweating, how often I shower or shave, what topical ointments or body wash I use or anything else. Lowering the temperature of my showers and only showering twice a week actually resulted in nicer hair and skin, but it didn’t stop the HS. Only getting rid of your trigger foods will do that. But how do you take care of a boil once it appears? There are so many theories out there – some people can’t take the pain anymore and squeeze and then let it scab over and then squeeze (the process can take days and leaves one hell of a scar) and let it scab over until enough pus has been released to alleviate the pressure. Others go to the doctors and have them lanced. You would think this would be the safest solution but from what I’ve heard, this can result in boils that just…don’t heal. Ever. The truth is, whether or not the boil is lanced, popped or just left to its own devices, at the end of the day it seems to take the same amount of time to heal and go away. It doesn’t seem to care what you do – unless you let it get infected. The pain of an infected abscess is about equal to the pain of one that hasn’t erupted; pick your poison. Surgery is always an option if the abscesses get bad enough – but the “after” pics I’ve seen online make me wonder which is worse. You tell me:

Painful infection happens quite often.

One good thing did come out of my original dermatologist appointment – she told me about Hibiclens. It’s an antimicrobial wash that surgeons use. The liquid she recommended turned out to be completely useless, but when I went to the store to buy it, I saw that they also had Hibistat Germicidal Hand Wipes. I picked up some of those as well. They don’t do anything to prevent a flareup, but if one does happen, they are EXTREMELY handy to have. They make the healing process go so much faster and prevent infection. They also really helped with any ingrown hairs, too. I know many people with HS also suffer from ingrown hairs, zits other places including cystic acne and clogged pores.

Since they were pretty pricey, I would take one and cut it into 4 and put the other pieces in a little Ziploc bag and use as needed. When money got tight, I would substitute regular old alcohol wipes from the first aid kit, and they also did the job. They just sting a lot more. I used either wipe at the first sign of a flareup, even before the skin broke. It seemed to help.

The other product I used (and continue to use) is coconut oil. Coconut oil is amazing stuff. It’s antibacterial, antimicrobial, antiviral and a damn good conditioner. I even use the stuff on my scalp. After I disinfected the wound, I would rub coconut oil on it. The scars seemed to fade faster and the wound healed quite quickly. Then I just started using it all over my body. I don’t use any other products at all and I have beautiful skin.

I heard once that beauty comes from the inside, so it makes sense that beautiful skin comes from what we put into ourselves. I hope this article has helped you. If you have any questions, or need further help, please comment on this post or send me an email.

Resources:

If you’re not Paleo, have never heard of the Paleo or Primal lifestyles or don’t know where to start, don’t worry. You can get all the information you need for free if you just take the time to read it:

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I NEED TO RANT A LITTLE:

It’s amazing to me that the medical community is so clueless when it comes to HS. Take breast cancer, for example. We ALL know what breast cancer is. Not that I am belittling the disease or the tenacity of its survivors, but if I have one more person ask me to donate to Breast Cancer Awareness, I am going to scream. We’re all fucking AWARE of breast cancer already. I can’t be any MORE aware of it. (Notice they never say “Give me money so we can find a CURE,” it’s always “Raise awareness!” 230,480 women in the US were expected to be diagnosed with breast cancer in the U.S. in 2011, according to www.breastcancer.org. What about the upwards of 12 MILLION people in the U.S. alone that suffer with HS? I have heard from people all over the world that are afflicted with HS. It’s not an American problem. Yet, there is no awareness for HS. No funds, no campaigns for the cure, nothing. Your doctor doesn’t even know what it is. We need to come out of the closet, people. HS may not kill you, but I am certain that people have committed suicide because of it. I know this because there have been times I have wanted to kill myself. Times I have been so ashamed of the condition of my body that I just wanted it all to end. Times when I have been so frustrated with doctors and their lack of compassion, making me feel ashamed of myself, like it’s MY FAULT, that I wanted to give up. Like I said in my previous post, I’m lucky. And realizing that I alone hold the key to my health has been incredibly empowering.


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Primalgirl Opens Up: Hidradenitis Suppurativa Part 2 — 267 Comments

  1. A question: Where can we read the information you’re working on about potatoes? (Or is it still a work in progress?) I strongly now suspect potatoes also affect me!

    • I’m keeping it pretty much under wraps until the book comes out. There is a chapter dedicated to nightshades. Until then, just know that they’re probably causing a great deal of your HS and steer clear!!!

  2. Thank you, thank you so much for posting this! I just had an abscess lanced yesterday before reading this today.. and I feel like I finally have some hope into finding a way to end all this pain. I’ve had HS for almost 11 years, and I’m turning 24… almost half my life already, and nothing has really helped me. But this… this just shined a whole new light for me and I can’t wait to try it.

    If it works out, I will thank you a thousand times over!

  3. WOW – I am SO THANKFUL for this! I have had HS for more than 15 years and have tried EVERYTHING. I have even done a medical trial with Humira – it helped my HS but destroyed my immune system. I’ve only been off of it since November and I’ve already had horrible breakouts and had to have an area lanced just last week. I’ve resumed all of my “research” and just yesterday came to the conclusion that I need to start looking away from the “symptoms” and more towards the autoimmune characteristics of this disease. I have tried gluten free before and didn’t really have any change so I really wondered what was even going to work for me since that is the main thing people point to when they find their “cure.” I am so happy to read there are more things that I can try. I’m going to start this now and have confidence that I will find my “cure!”

    Thank you again SO much for this. I can’t wait to read your book!!

    Do you have any specific recommendations for the auto-immune Paleo diet? Just wondering where the best place to start would be, Robb Wolf?

    • Yes, start with Robb Wolf and end with my book when it comes out this summer. ;)
      I started out gluten free too and did it for 5 months. It didn’t really make a big difference, because when I cut out bread, I increased potatoes. O_o Just going gluten-free often isn’t enough, most people I’m talking to are finding nightshades are their triggers. For me it’s a combination of wheat, nightshades and too much sugar.
      YOu’re doing to need to do some major damage control to combat the medication. It will probably take you a little longer to heal, so be patient and take it easy on yourself. It can take a couple of extra YEARS when your immune system has been compromised so severely.

  4. Thank you for your blog. I stumbled across this and did a little test with potatoes and my HS has drastically reduced it’s almost completely gone. I was having daily/weekly flareups and now maybe once a month. I think there is probably something else contributing but the main culprit for me was potatoes. Great information. My Mother has HS very bad as well but I don’t think she’s ready to start cutting things out of her diet as she’s already had to make lots of changes as a new diabetic but she’ll get there :) Thanks again.

  5. I’m doing ok ever since I posted about tomatoes triggering a bad boil. I’ve avoided them since. Interestingly, it seems it’s raw tomatoes that did it to me. If I have a tiny bit of ketchup on a grass-fed burger, I seem to be fine. It was also multiple instances of eating tomatoes that particular week, I think it was 3 separate days in the same week. So that might have had something to do with it.
    I have a free wax bikini line scheduled for tomorrow at this new place in town. I’m unsure if waxing will be bad. All of my hs is in the groin area. Will waxing be a problem? I’ve never done it before; I’ve always been afraid it would cause ingrown hairs and add to the problem.
    Can’t wait for your book to come out. Thanks for all your support and advice.

    • You’re welcome! It’s good to hear from you. I have uncovered so many answers about why something may make you flare up one week and not the next, I’m in the middle of writing that chapter so we’ll have to wait, but it certainly explains a lot… :)
      When waxing, you should have fewer problems than when shaving, but you still may encounter certain things. If you can, take some Hibistat wipes or rubbing alcohol wipes with you and as soon as the waxing is done, wipe the area and let it dry. Then, massage some coconut oil in. If I don’t do this step, I will usually have problems with ingrown hairs, as they get trapped before they can escape. Doing this seems to totally prevent the problem in me. Also make sure you don’t have any sugar or grains a couple days after the waxing. This will help prevent the skin around the hair follicle from growing too quickly and trapping the hair as well.
      The only way you’ll be able to know if the waxing will affect you is to try it and see…anything that irritates the hair follicle can result in something, but I never had an HS flare because of waxing. Good luck!

  6. Thank you so much, Primalgirl, for all the information and talking about it.
    I had HS stage 2, with stress as a main trigger. Since I lost my job, and lot of stress with that, I am in stage 1 with hardly any outbreaks. Losing my job sucks, but the great thing is that It gave me time to discover paleo and then your story. I am now in preparing fase for going into paleo for 30 days and give up carbs, dairy and all of the bad things and never go back.
    I am convinced it will work and I will also inform the dutch HS association about all of this.
    I am so happy that we can all beat this stupid disease. And my knee will never hurt again (my main excuse when limping with outbreaks). Thank you million times and more.

    • Yes, please tell the Dutch HS Association! I know you guys all speak English, but if they want to translate the book, they can contact me or my publisher and we’d be happy to set the process in motion.
      I used to live in Germany, right on the Dutch border. I worked in Brunssum and shopped in Sittard, Heerlen and Maastrict all the time. I sure miss it, especially the Christmas markets and the farmers markets. I really hope to go back some day. :)

      • This blog is such a relief to read–I’ve been struggling with this for 12 years and am about to get married (next year) and am just terrified for him to see my scars (armpits and butt). I am going to try this diet and see what happens–hopefully I’ll have good news to post soon. And I’m writing this here because I lived in Maastricht! I love it there and miss it so much!!

        • I miss the Netherlands a lot too… I can’t wait to get back over there.
          Now that you know what you’ve got, you may want to raise the subject with your fiance so that he knows what to expect. I find that when we open up and “confess” to our loved ones, they are way more accepting and loving than they are in our anxiety-driven fears. If we hide it from them, it can affect our relationship — or worst case scenario, they think we have an STD and freak out.

  7. This post is amazing! I have this, and have had boils all over my groin, arm pits, and back. I had no idea the condition had a name. I had one boil removed off my back and the scar was so terrible I never had another one removed. I have a lot of scarring. I went gluten-free about ten years ago, and that helped, but when I went paleo/primal two months ago, the change and improvement was *dramatic*!!! The medical community is freaking USELESS, and did nothing but blame me for being fat and dirty. Even though I was showering sometimes twice day. I did find an anti-biotic cream that works, but it makes that spot on your skin permanently sun sensitive forever, so I try not to use it. Thank you for your honesty on this issue, and I look forward to more information/posts!

  8. Hey. I stumbled across your site about 5 or so months ago. I had the most painful ‘flare-up’ on a sensitive part of my bum, just where the leg meets.. Made me sit down so slowly and omg so painful. I have had this HS for many many years, have tried antibiotics, and surgery for under my arms, (stage 3… Really bad) resorted to self lancing when it got too bad (ouch yes but worth the relief). I had to come to australia to get the correct diagnosis ironically from a scottish doctor who specialised in skin (as luck would have it!) He put me on more antibiotics and I just got sick. I gave up and just used this cream that makes it soft and self lance. The last baaad outbreak I read ur post and I cried.. I have to say thank you because I never ever thought it could be related to food. U were bang on. Potatoes and tomatoes, eggplants, chillis, capsicums. I cut all nightshades out and have been relatively painfree now since then. I could honestly kiss you. U prob have no idea what shame and self hatred I have had to endure for most of my life. I started showing symptoms at the tender age of 4. Surgery under my arms went well I have scars but I would rather that than what I had to go through. Thank you so much. I will definitely buy your book when it comes out. Xxx

  9. Dear Primalgirl, Like everyone else writing to you thanks for “coming out” I have suffered from HS for many, many years. I’ve taken every antibotic known to man, and yes even accutane. The acne cleared up and there was great relief with HS, but continued use is out of the question for obvious reasons, I was desperate, plus my hair fell out. I’ve been using antibiotics off and on over 25 years, steroids aggrevated the condition, I did try zinc for about 18 months, but after a while, no results. My story is the same as many HS survivors, I live in the closet only out to the necessary doctors, I too suffer from PCOS. I’ve been hiding so long, it’s just a relief to be able to share. I’m definately going to modify my diet and find out what my trigger foods are I suspect, like you potatoes, and I’m praying tomatoes are not a trigger for me (I Love tomatoes) I’m starting today, with the necessary elimination of trigger foods and maybe after 90 days reintroduce some, I don’t like eggs anyway and I doubt if I will everrr eat another potatoe, fried or in a salad or chip! So Primalgirl, the DIVA AWARD goes to you for all your research and energy. Have you ever heard of a HS support group? I will be buying your book as soon as it’s available, so please let me know when that book is out! from one HSter to another.

  10. Amazing post! This is definitely the key to find a way to help my sister recover from HS. I knew slightly of her condition, but didn’t realize the trauma that it really had on the body and mind. It’s amazing how little doctors know, or worse, turn a cheek on nutrition and quickly prescribe drugs. You’ve changed lives here, my friend, and we all thank you for it. Thank you for doing the research and experimenting on yourself. Thank you for being brave and doing something about it rather than let it keep taking you over. Thank you for doing something. Because of your actions, you are saving lives and helping people live better. I can only hope to be able to change lives in a positive way as you have, and I’m going to start with my sister. Cheers to you!

    Very Best,
    @TexasClaudia

  11. I found your posts about HS a few days ago and started an AIP Whole30 on Sunday. I’ve been reading some different things and wanted to know what your opinion was about Macadamia nuts and fruit. I don’t eat a lot of either, a few nuts for a snack before a workout or at night when I’m craving sugar. I eat fruit rarely and usually apples, bananas or some strawberries. Have you had any feedback on whether fruit and nuts are related to breakouts?

    I have had HS for 14 years. I’m in stage 2, I was borderline stage 3 for a while, but I have spent the last year trying to clean up my diet and I think that has helped. I’ve got them in my armpits, under my breasts, around my belly button, in my groin area, on my buttocks, and all over my inner thighs. I did a Whole 30 in January/February and while I felt better, I still had new bumps show up. I have been lucky and have not had any open gaping ones for a while.

    The one thing that I have found that helps is Manuka honey on open wounds – I call it miracle honey. It helps them heal so much more quickly than usual. I use it on any cut I have anymore and have been told by a few people that I recommended it to that it helped reduce their scars too. If I have a new bump that is raised and red, I use Manuka oil. It helps draw the infection out and dry up the bump. I use a manuka honey based soap as well.

    I also use Zeeasorb powder under my breasts and around my groin area. I sweat a lot in the areas and always thought that sweat made the hair follicles more likely to break out into a HS bump. I’m debating continuing with this, but I sweat so much and I hate being stinky, so…

    Thank you so much for coming out with this. I was ready to give up on eating healthy and exercising because of a new outbreak, but I have hope again. Thank you!!!!!!!!!

  12. crying i thank you for this; with hope i will read and follow your advice, hopefully will be able to report results back as well. scars and bandaids have been my life since my teens and no doctor has ever given me hope as your post has done. bless you.

  13. EdJ says:

    Thank you all for all the information I have seen posted. I have had HS for over 35 years. I was not told it was HS until about 5 years ago. I have tried all the antibiotics, Accutane and draining when painfully swollen nothing has worked, just continued to get worse and more places.
    I started the Autoimmune Paleo diet 30 days ago and their seems to be a fading of most the infected areas and I have not had any new spots. When I started the diet many locations had a lot of inflammation in them and some seemed to have flared up some during this 30 days and then go back down.
    My question, is this normal and how long does it generally take to see most swelling go away. I am afraid to add anything back into my diet until I know I can tell the difference. Thanks.

  14. I hardly know where to begin…. I found this post through a web search. I started paleo just 15 days ago. I came to Paleo, because I went gluten free and sugar free the beginning of the year. Once I passed the 2 week mark, I was became bloated mess (never been a problem in the past). Through my research, I have found that probably because of my increase in other glutenous grain (rice, corn, and especially quinoa) that my body was struggling to process. So I decided to eliminate the trouble makers using the paleo guidelines. Around day 12 of Paleo some cysts have started to crop up. I have not had any for a long time now. And I thought that maybe my body was detoxing. I’ve been getting them off and on for many years. I have never known what it was or why I had them until today, reading this article. As I read through the description of symptoms, and comments I was stunned, and actually said out loud to no one in particular, ‘That’s me!’ I didn’t know this was so common. That there is a clinical name and that it is indeed a disease. I feel mixed emotions of relief and dismay.
    I think my recent outbreak is due to the fact that I am consuming more nuts and seeds. Maybe nightshades as well, as I am consuming more of those raw. Which is sad cause I love them, and I feel my diet will be very limited, if they are eliminated as well. Regardless, I will be going forward with the autoimmune protocol.
    I just want to thank you so very much for being brave and giving this a voice, and educating us all. I am extremely grateful. I’ll be sure to update you on what I discover!

  15. After informing another about HS (for the millionth time) I decided it was time to look up pictures again and see if there was any “new” information on the internet. I’ve suffered for 21 years now and the flare ups are no where near as bad as they were about 5 years ago but a triple onset of sores/boils occurred this week and reminded me of the intense pain, the illness and fatigue that HS causes. Having started a new job about a month ago and coming in today feeling totally drained and in complete pain (to the point I am being vocal about it) I ended up sharing my condition. Of course another related to the boils but she only has one in the same spot so I dont know if its really HS or not. Any how I just wanted to say thank you for the “freshness” of your posts and Im REALLY looking forward to your book, attempting to join the FB group and knowing now that I need to look into the Paleo diet/nightshades. I do consume A LOT of potatoes, had no clue this could be a cause to the flare ups other than the norms. Again, thank you! I, too, wish there was more awareness and support for HS. I never thought I would look so forward to Menopause.

    • Ah darlin, it doesn’t necessarily get better with menopause. That is yet another myth. :( But we’ll get you squared away long before that so don’t worry. Thank you so much for speaking up and being vocal, that really takes guts. But it’s what we need if there is going to be any awareness at all. :)

  16. I’ve had HS for about 13 years, but was diagnosed 4 years ago. I was disheartened when the doctor told me there was no cure. I basically threw my hands up and gave up. I recently came across your site and have hope again. Right now, I have 5 holes on my armpit which is always draining pus. The doctor told me that these holes would never close, and that has me depressed. Did your HS produce these holes and if they did, did they ever heal? I’m also considering going in the antibiotics for a few months alongside the Paleo diet to see if the infection subsides. Do you have an opinion on that? This disease is so depressing. I can’t do this anymore. I need a solution. I have two small kids and I can’t live the life I want with them because I’m constantly concerned or limited with my HS.

    Thank you, thank you for your site. I would have never known that there was something that could send it into remission. I agree with you on that there needs to be awareness. I wish I could scream it out to the world, but reality is that I am ashamed of what I have. Thank you for reading my comment and I look forward to your opinion.
    PS, can’t wait for your book to come out. I can’t find substantial information on this subject in any book.

    • Just submitted the manuscript to the publisher this morning! :) Won’t be long now.
      No, unfortunately, I didn’t have any holes that never closed, but I was in Stage I for most of the time, and then moved into severe Stage II for a couple years. My HS only affected my hair follicles. Since your doctor has not been able to help you, before you get depressed ask yourself if they really know what they’re talking about when they say those holes will never close. Something tells me they don’t really know what they’re talking about. It sounds like you have the form of HS that affects your sweat glands, but I can’t tell from your description alone.
      I do not suggest antibiotics unless you have an active infection, but I cannot make that decision for you. Just be aware that antibiotics do not work for HS.
      Please don’t be ashamed. Is someone ashamed if they get Lupus? Or Hashimoto’s? Or Cancer?!? No, they are not ashamed. They may be saddened, but the strong ones will rise up and fight and regain their health.

  17. Wow!!! I was googling info on painful knots under your armpit and stumbled across this. I am a registered nurse and have NEVER heard of or seen anything like this. There definitely needs to be awareness of HS to help find a control or cure! I can’t imagine how painful that must be. Good luck with your book, and God bless you all who have to deal with this!!!

  18. Hi, thanks for your post it has been so helpful. As you now know it is the nightshades that affect you do u now eat dairy n wheat ?

  19. hi tara, i want some suggestion about paleo diet, i live in turkey first month of paleo diet i have diffucilty in find eating food. no bread no dairy no wheat… it is hard for me and i dont know what can i do ?… what did you do this process what did you eat for not be hungry ? please help me and thank you everything

    • You already found me on Facebook, but for those of you that haven’t, YES beer can be a trigger. First off, it’s made from wheat. It contains yeast. And barley. And alcohol. All of those things can be triggers. If you suspect that beer is an issue, I suggest getting rid of ALL wheat and gluten, and possibly even yeast. And stop drinking for a while to see how you do. Good luck!

  20. Primalgirl, i have been dealing w/ HS since i was 12years old iam now 22. I have been taking the antibiotic Minocycline since Dec 2012 it helped A LOT!!!but unforunatly it has killed my immune system and gave tons of side effects..I need something that works. I am at level 3 (say the derm) of this desease and im tied..i need to contact u personally i have read both your posts so far and u have my full attention but im a little confused..thanks for opening up.

    • I’ll be offering private HS consultations to people once they’ve read the book. I think I cover most questions and problems that people with HS have and would like to give you all the chance to figure things out on your own, as private consultations can get pretty expensive. However, once you’ve finished reading the book, I can definitely help you out if you are still having problems, or if you need some specific guidance. :)

  21. thank you but i’m dreadfully afraid of doing paleo! This weekend I got probalby one of my worst flare ups right in between my legs and it’s quite large. I have told my husband about it but he refuses to believe me :( My dr recently told me what I had. My groin area is completely destroyed :( I dont know how I got this or why I was chosen, but I’m glad to know there are others out there.

  22. OMG! I think I have this! I’ve never told ANYONE about the painful little lumps I get on my groin, thighs, & sometimes underarms or rear. I stumbled onto this since I went Primal/Paleo starting in January but dismissed it since mine was so infrequent. Funny thing, I have had it (stage 1) I think off & on for at least 10-15 years (I’m 30) & since going paleo this year I’m seeing MORE flare ups! In the last month alone, I have had 3 seperate lumps appear (1 painful 1 just last week), when I used to only see 1 here or there a couple times a year. The only thing I can equate it to is eggs. I’ve always been a big fan of eggs, but since going paleo, I now eat them a lot more & a lot more often, like daily. I have a source for pastured eggs & chicken & since they’re a favorite food & cheap, I make good use of them. I’m going to try eliminating them & see if that helps & if not I’ll do the autoimmune protocol & see if that helps. I desperately don’t want to progress to a worse stage! :-(

  23. Thank you for putting this site together. I have been searching all over the net for an answer and I think I have found the connection I am looking for. First off, a quote “HS may not kill you, but I am certain that people have committed suicide because of it.” Just some info about this quote that I have ran across, I have ran across a few sites that state that people with HS are at a higher risk for skin cancer. I wish I had saved the link, I did not. Anyhow, this, with the usual quote that HS is prevalent in people between the ages of puberty and their 40′s had me freaked out! The sites never seem to state what happens after the age of 40 or why there is a decrease in episodes after 40! Do we all just fall off the earth? Do we all die of skin cancer (what I was freaked out about)? Does HS just naturally go away at 40? I think that I have found the answer on this site, which brings me some peace to heart: It was mentioned that women tended to not have as much of an issue after menopause. While aspects of menopause and what women go through during that time is something that I can only begin to understand (I’m a guy), it helped me understand what the decrease in HS cases after 40 might be associated with. While I still need to be observant for any skin cancer, I am no longer am freaked out about it!

    • Hey Dispatcher,
      I’m pretty sure there isn’t a link between HS and skin cancer. If you search for anything and a link to HS, you can find it online. People aren’t taking the autoimmune nature of HS into account and don’t realize they’re being attacked on more than one front. If you’re afraid of skin cancer, I suggest taking a Vitamin D3 supplement and making sure your blood levels are adequate — Vitamin D3 deficiency is absolutely linked to skin cancer, and also plays a large role in autoimmune conditions. :)
      HS doesn’t necessarily get better after 40, or even after menopause for women. It just seems to start on average around the age of 23. If you don’t have it by your 40s, chances are you never will. That’s all. I haven’t been to the site you’re talking about, but I don’t think they really get it or have all the facts. I hope this helps to quell some of your fears. You can totally get rid of HS by finding your triggers and eating a Primal diet.

      • As a post menopausal woman, I can attest to the fact that it didn’t help the HS symptoms at all. The ONLY thing that has helped is a Paleo diet, and the auto-immune (AI) protocol. So far, in 10 months, only two unintentional gluten exposures have caused a flare-up. However, because I have other AI issues I stay on the AI Protocol.

  24. Thank you so much for being so open about this. Your information here has really helped me in my search for an answer to what multiple Dr.’s keep telling me is just “an ingrown hair or acne.” If HS is what I have, then I’m fortunate not to be too severe, with you advise here, I hope to get to the root cause before it gets worse. Thanks!

  25. I am thankful for finding your blog… I have suffered with HS for 17 years, I have had surgery 4 times, which includes a surgery at 8 months pregnant. My first operation was at 16 and it seemed to actually spread the condition to my groin area. I have never seen improvement and found the 4 years of antibiotic treatment a cause of a deeper problem with systemic yeast and no improvement to the HS. After needing emergency surgery for the botched initial surgery in 2004 I stopped seeking treatment since doctors always treated me like a freak of nature. I was a smoker for 15 years and quit… no improvement, I quit pop of any kind… no improvement… I quit sugar, no improvement, I quit wheat… No improvement. The only thing I have left to quit are potatoes! Much like you I thought it was a safe choice. I ate potatoes every day for a month and now after reading your posts realize that they may be at fault for the outrageous outbreak on my face (deep cystic that turns purple and has the same symptoms as HS). It is also possible to get HS in your earlobes just as a note. Mine started on my tailbone and in my ears and progressed from there. I am now 32 and my facial symptoms are worse than they ever have been.

    • I would cut all nightshades out of your diet, based on what you’ve said. I get HS on my face when the following happens: 1) I’m in the progesterone dominant part of my cycle, 2) I eat lots of high glycemic foods and 3) I sneak a nightshade in there. Just one of those things on their own isn’t enough for me to flare up, but when all 3 collide, watch out. Peppers and hot peppers are particularly bad, followed by tomatoes but potatoes always cause flare ups elsewhere. O_o
      You may want to look out for fructose and yeast-containing foods, too. I’m sorry your surgeries went so poorly, unfortunately, that’s not the first time I’ve heard that. :(

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